Samhain was the holiday that separated the change between light days and winter dark days. Luckily, Voynich studies does move its Alexandrine length along (despite appearances) and today your expressing the same view will scarcely raise an eyebrow. Then it will be good. Rich SantaColoma has his own ideas about how the Voynich Manuscript was made, but to my eyes he never seems particularly comfortable when other people put forward similar or overlapping ideas. Whom the VM author could really afford such glasses, and parchment and paint, he was certainly not from poor parents. Produced by an author and possible polyglot with a genius-level dose of the savant syndrome in the field of languages. https://www.reddit.com/r/voynich/comments/d47gii/the_wojnicz_found_in_68r1_big_star/. Diane: OK (I suppose)… but then why “Nicholas of Damascus’ book about plants” rather than any of the 500+ other books on plants from that general time frame? Damit Du keinen falschen Weg einschlägst. Italian and Latin are potential candidates, so are numerous other languages, depending on how you parse the glyphs (are there ligatures? In these essays, only comment on the primary evidence is required, the points being given for comprehensiveness and quality:- in observation, commentary, references and presentation of the writer’s discussion of the primary evidence. (Since then the library issued better scans, so some considerations in my post are now invalid, but this “get”-shaped something is still there). As indeed she is in that picture I’m in the process of making a video regarding my cipher so that it is simple enough for a 6th grader to comprehend. !! Professional academics, like professional anythings, are normally better at what they do than amateurs. That way, they don’t have to be channeling spooks. Ultimately while the pictures may have been poorly conceived, he may have seen his real job as copying out the text accurately; the poor planning of the page layout also suggests that the text and illustration were concieved separately and had a different focus with the transcriber not aware of the intention behind writing gobblydook around illustrations and accepting the resultant chaos as not really his business to care, he’s confused about the whole thing to begin with.) Compressing words into characters would allow a lot of space saving. Such does not appear to have been their purpose at all. PS Roland I think you make perfect sense and it is logical to see why. If you look at my submissions to you, I think you will notice I have usually said the prefix-midfix-suffix idea was the one I adopted and adapted. attractive is not here, reap seeds, Neither are astronomical MSs. The word for the weekend. That is true. I’m sorry I know you wanted to be one with the crack. It would be worth following this trail, as it is a plausible reason why the book has changed location. I’m sure you’re right about coffee being served up in Ethiopia in medieval times, leastwise it’s drinking habit was well established when bibliophile Jim Bruce visuted in the mid 18th centuary to explore the blue Nile source and he raved about it. (“You’re so clever, you tell us what colour it should be!”). one where the manuscript’s text production follows rules and embodies internal logic the author was not consciously aware of. A single expression of his talent and ability and make nothing else like it?? Evidence first, theory (if any) absolutely last is my own preferred method. Don’t you know you’re not supposed to walk into the light. “Olazabel” is Basque. The reason why you see many, “o’s” and “c’s”, “9’s”, which seem odd in the document were for linguistic design. We know this is true because the Jesuits said they only put names in them ‘for safe-keeping’. ( I do not know English pronunciation. I don’t want to defend the possibly misguided Latin theorists, and I am certainly not one of them. is it an abjad?). I have seen this done. Thanks ! /11) … . and so I struggle to understand how theories about the manuscript’s language can start by writing off that rationality.”. I wrote on the topic of that approximately cross-shaped form some time ago, and since it is a current item, I’ll try to find and repost the offering from ‘Findings’ if you like. Of the 555 occurrences 115 are unique: Ruby. The typical example might be a Greek text provided with characteristically northern French layout and illumination. I know that sometimes leaves, stems and roots of a plant are used together, and sometimes singly, due to one part being poisonous and the other parts not. These well may be some “spirits” or, generally, allegories. The analysis I plan is what is the frequency of * within the linked “cc” compared with * by itself. This idea was done out of the thought that the VMS was produced by alien beings and I know this is funny! hi Jozef , That’s what Voynich Lite is a proof of. Shit happens. If one generates a dictionary reading from anagrams that maintains a subject matter then yes my method is sound. The dot is number one ( 1 ). Nick I’m not sure what you’re talking about there but I look forward to seeing it. . My grandfather was a very close friend of yours and the mind behind the forgery. You see the large parchment cats ? Your link leads to a report by Hauer and Kondrak proposing a method of finding the language assumed to be encoded by a simple substitution cipher. So I strongly suspect you’re wasting your time, sorry. May not even be true writing. Dear all, The mother of word frequency tables is: cryptogram.org. What sort of hand size cross-shaped objects, practical or symbolic, existed independently of Christianity or of the roman instrument of punishment and execution, in other cultures? I have been looking for a recording of Wilfrid Voynich for awhile. The investigation of potential heraldic interpretations of the illustrations on these three pages leads to a surprising set of discoveries and seeming discrepancies that I have been posting about for several years, with several of these specifically focused on the clearly visible use of hatching and the matter of the potential interpretations. The seven stars (Pleiades?) like me) would never be able to interpret (however long we painfully google), just because it’s specifically professional knowledge and specifically professional research. This maybe an ad hominem on my part so excuse me for that JKP. But alas no longer, and it would not have been seen in the night skies by folks up around Venice or even Milano by the fifteenth century. I haven’t seen a comment by you about the climate resulting of the positioning of elements and continents. Three letters are superfluous. Problem was that one day the Templars got caught with their pants down and their top officers got burnt at the stake all of a sudden before they could make the arrangements for their secret to be passed on ; with the surviving junior templar members having no idea what the whole order was about to begin with (except that it was secret and important) ; and so during the liquidation of Templar assets VMS was one of the more recently made Templar’s contingencies and which managed to escape detection with it being labelled under medicine instead of heresy. If you notice if you can even read it takes all the glyphs to form a word. I admit it wasn’t easy, even for someone with some years spent in that sort of work. The version of Ogburn’s site I found was from 2004. Moreover, in the text there are 2 levels of encryption. it’s a bit rough… but I get .. [word] appears [bright?] And when I see something like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then for me it is a duck. At least Enki won’t be offended. I’ll be happy to carry a post there for you. He might have taken sketches of the manuscript there and later reworked the illustrations to create the VMS.”. It is spelled Halley’s comet, and they named it after a guy who lived in the second half of the 17th century. for i in anagrams(main()): I don’t think Stephen Bax is another Wilfrid; perhaps he is another me, or another you? I think that it fits the context of f116v, but I’ve been busy (or lazy) to blogpost it, and yet need to previously check this guess with some German speaker. A more promising approach would be to take the special signs K, T, P, F and cKh, cTh, cPh and cFh into account and see, which sign precedes these special signs like aK, oK, lK, yK etc. Link: https://medium.com/@thingsnorthern/the-equivalence-of-a-and-y-in-the-voynich-script-91886d6cd827. (Compelling Press is a great name, by the way). How old is that custom, though? If you come over to the Dark Side soon, the name Nick Skywalker is still available. Well Nick I applaud your optimism towards anyone looking into the VM by saying we are doomed to 99.999% failure. All one has to do is read his posts at Voynich Ninja and witness his need to be recognized as-well as ego which is through the roof IMHO. He’s simply changing the language and keeping most of the rest of it the same so he can publish a new book every few months. I have deciphered the alphabet to what I think it is( As I originally belong to Punjab region and I am aware of the cursive writings from the region as well as phonetics ). Then find out what it says on the last page of the manuscript and know the extent, that is the time. For this look at https://vk.com/id304788998 . 1/. And – apart from the presence of Occitan-like zodiac month-names, which seem to have been added in an ugly hand by a later owner – why must it have anything to do with Occitan? Nick, old veteran, it looks like everyone agrees more than one hand contributed to the manuscript’s illustrations, does the same apply to whoever coloured them , in your opinion? else: # accessing the keys using their values (reverse of encryption) I’m just making the (subjective) observation that the rate of (real) discovery has been slowing down and pondering about the ultimate cause of that. Maybe you remember, that I have called it a calendarium as well and so I identified the two crowned figures as the souls of St. Justina of Padua and St. Parasceva of Rome, both with a martyr’s crown. Gladyseva is now sure she that has translated the entire manuscript, too. As an aside to Tom ONeil’s non tongue in cheek coffee stain, it’s relevance is easily evidenced by the attempted ‘Tepencz’ signature obliteration on page f1r which is obviously deliberate rather than an accidental spillage of some brownish liquid. When you say “lunar phases” do you mean phases of the moon, or the lunar months? However the classic but lame book Code unchopped was in Italian anagrams and it was my first publication; as it was a substitution cipher which left out some Gallows, because they were nulls. That’s a pretty representative sample in my mind. He doesn’t even seem to understand what they did. By the way in Mexico exactly prior and around 1910 the marijuana was common place. And also by virtue of its role, the Templars necessarily couldn’t produce more than one VMS or they run the risk of having them compared and found to be identical. There are no autobahns in learning, deciphering and exploring, no quick routes to the answers. Or maybe someone else will come up with a better reason for the words to be able to be divided up into coded sections so regularly. https://www.reddit.com/r/voynich/comments/d6oont/ros2_spiral_of_vords_next_to_castle_decrypted/. Is E C E D Italian? Hats off to Nick for his hosting our posts on newer and greater server!!! I didn’t mean that there was no knowledge of a plant, usually called something like “the tree of wisdom” etc. The lower-case abbreviations seem to me to be very plausibly interpreted as German colour abbreviations, given that Rene has found another contemporary manuscript which uses the same colour codes. 1. I sort of rushed this out. But this also suggests that we should be suspicious of everything we see on the page: that the original alpha state of the rosettes may well have been far simpler, but that the way they all ended up was far more distracting to the eye. So while I’d agree that absence of pre-1838 provenance is unhelpful, it’s still very much an absence of a fact rather than a fact per se. In a few months, when your Amazon book sales start to dwindle again, you’ll probably come up with another language. Nick and Renne. Thereafter in chronological order followed the Nile (5 branches – I blame my Latin teacher) and Heavenly Jerusalem leading to the elements via Ether. It is about making it easier for people to understand and see the logical flaws. -.-. The Fama’s First Draft. Nine years down the track, Nick.. The VM itself conatins quite a few spelling errors, as e.g. Diane: When that small writing is digitally enhanced it appears to be the “pur” we are talking about. I was trying to see how a rennet bag is used in sausage making or generally how it looks when stuffed with minced meat or the like. I can make only a general note that the 1st page of anything (especially if that anything is not covered yet) is a common place to accumulate (re)marks that are not initially intended to be there – blots, accidental notes, lazy drawings etc. -.. . The original paper take those to mean the equator but I’m not really sure where they got that from. 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